With The New York Times calling the “dumb phone” the hottest trend of 2026, marking a cultural shift in how we value attention in an always-on world. We’re joined by the CEO of Light, one of the world’s leading dumb-phone manufacturers, alongside Breaking Bad actor and outspoken digital-wellbeing advocate Aaron Paul. Together, they’ll explore the cost of always being "on", the backlash against smartphone addiction, and what it means to reclaim balance, focus, and intention in modern life.